Officer Gary Lee Lovette: “Me, I Dropped Like a F***ing Bomb On His Head… We Killed Him”
Photo provided by Treavor Eimers
The Grand Jury’s Final Report is in. No indictment will be handed out in response to the fatal Thanksgiving Day arrest of Charles Eimers.
The report – no matter how beneficial it is for the officers who could have faced criminal charges – throws more fuel than water on that fire. Indeed a summary contained in the FDLE Investigative Report, made public yesterday afternoon, of an audio recording captured during and immediately after the arrest is simply stupefying.
Apparently Officer Gary Lee Lovette inadvertently left the recording mechanism on his Taser in the on position for several hours after putting the Taser back into its holster. What follows is an excerpt from FDLE’s summary of the audio recordings:
- Officer Lovette told an unknown person that “we tackled him and got into a fight.”
- Officer Lovette stated “Me, I dropped like a fucking bomb on his head.”
- When an unknown male asked, who “killed” Eimers, Officer Lovette responded “Gabe”
- When asked “how bad did y’all beat him up, though?” Officer Lovette replies “Mainly just me.”
- Regarding the next phase, Officer Lovette acknowledges that there will be an investigation.
- Officer Lovette summarizes the event in several ways in different conversations:
- As a “police involved death”
- As an “in custody murder”
- In response to an unknown remark, Officer Lovette states “That would be funny if we didn’t just kill someone.”
- In response to an unknow remark, Officer Lovette states “We just killed someone.”
- In response to an unknown phone call Officer Lovette states “…yeah, well we killed him…”
- In response to an unknown person Officer Lovette states “He’s not breathing anymore.”
The recording is in line with the protests reportedly made by a New York police officer while witnessing the arrest, ‘this is legalized murder on the beach!’
It is interesting also that contrary to the police reports, several of the civilian witnesses interviewed by FDLE refer to excessive use of a Taser.
“A punch in the stomach,” says Treavor Eimers, about the Grand Jury’s decision to issue a “No True Bill” in the case involving the death of his father at the hands of Key West Police officers on Thanksgiving Day.
“My father was pursuing his dream of spending a warm winter in Key West volunteering and enjoying his retirement. He died before his first day was over.”
The “No True Bill” by the Grand Jury means that the jurors found no probable cause for the criminal prosecution of any of the officers involved in Eimers’ arrest.
Does the Grand Jury Report put the matter to rest? Hardly.
“First and foremost,” the Grand Jury concluded, “we commend those KWPD officers who did follow proper procedures during the incident… We find that KWPD officers on scene exercised the proper amount of force to apprehend and restrain Mr. Eimers.”
The Grand Jurors explain that their decision is based on the testimony of the only expert witness brought in by the State Attorney.
His name is Chuck Joyner. He is a professional defense witness for officers accused of excessive force. Joyner is famous for publicly defending a Houston police officer who shot and killed a wheelchair-bound double amputee. Joyner argued that because the one-armed, one-legged man was waving a ballpoint pen there was reasonable justification for the officer to shoot him square in the head.
It was Joyner’s job to convince the Monroe County Grand Jurors that they shouldn’t believe their lying eyes and ears. No expert witness was called to demonstrate how impossible it is to breathe while your shoulders are pinned down in the sand, as Eimers were. See our reenactment video here.
The Grand Jury seems to have been most impressed by the fact that the Medical Examiner found no sand in Eimers’ airways which seemed to invalidate witness accounts of asphyxiation. However, the Medical Examiner’s own notes reveal that after a week in the hospital, it would have been unlikely to find any sand in Mr. Eimers’ airways.
“1/2/14 [0925] Call in from SA Smith
Q1 – Any changes expected in lungs with asphyxiation. He was face down in sand but doesn’t seem very long on video.
A1 – With sand – in fresh case – might find some sand in upper airway but he was in hosp for a week so less likely. I did not see any sand. Lung changes are non-specific.” – Notes of Dr. E. Hunt Scheuerman, [then] Monroe County Medical Examiner
A statement made by Dan Abrams, the Chief Legal Affairs anchor for ABC News, about the Ferguson Grand Jury proceedings in the Michael Brown shooting sheds light on the Grand Jury process:
“You don’t have to take it to the Grand Jury. But this allows the prosecutor with these sorts of warring narratives to say, ‘I didn’t make the decision. They did. The grand jurors did. The people did.’ But of course how vigorously the prosecutor presents the case is everything. There’s no defense attorney there. It’s just the prosecutor presenting a case to these grand jurors. If the DA wants an indictment, he’ll get an indictment. If the DA doesn’t want an indictment or has questions, that could be a very different thing.” – ABCnews.com 8/19/14
The Grand Jury report continues:
“We are extremely concerned about unprofessional conduct and statements that were made after the incident regarding the events of that morning… The internal affairs investigation should result in appropriate recommendations or sanctions for the officers involved regardless of their consequence or severity.”
“We also express serious concern about some aspects of the investigation conducted by the KWPD. First, insufficient efforts were made to promptly locate and interview civilian witnesses … Second, the KWPD clearly failed to timely communicate with LKMC about Mr. Eimers’ condition and whether or not the KWPD considered Mr. Eimers to be “in custody” while he was at the hospital.”
The Grand Jurors didn’t find indictable criminal actions, but they certainly sent the City and its police department on a soul searching mission:
“We further recommend that the KWPD offer additional mandatory training on the topics of stress management and sensitivity.” Is poor stress management and lack of sensitivity not a euphemism for violent and inappropriatly explosive behavior?
“The sensitivity training,” the Grand Jury Report continues, “should have a public and social awareness component.”
A lack of adequate training in the proper use of force is at the core of the civil rights lawsuit filed by the Eimers family against the City of Key West.
The Grand Jury and FDLE reports with their stunning new revelations including admissions to “Murder” by Officer Lovette and findings of inadequate training may be a sign of more challenges to come for the City of Key West in the civil rights lawsuit initiated by the Eimers family.
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To access all Blue Paper articles on the death of Charles Eimers click here.
Why didn’t the Grand Jury get to hear the taser recording?
Sadly, as I wrote months ago, citizens will not convict police officers of physical crimes. They want to feel the world is just, and their police are not a danger. We are also a nation that revels in violence. Those of us who object are a small minority.
Sigh….
Another fantastic article, Naja and Arnaud! I am truly appalled by the Grand Jury’s decision. While it certainly appears the State Attorney did her best to stack the deck in favor or the cops, it still makes me wonder how the Grand Jury could have seemingly ignored whatever evidence was presented to them. The FDLE report clearly shows, at the very least, a very dangerous cop with an extremely warped sense of self worth. He sure sounds proud of having killed Mr. Eimers. A couple of our elected officials were really crowing about the Grand Jury report, as if that makes everything ok and we can all get back to our lives. Well, these same officials will soon be eating that crow. It is obvious that at least a couple of these cops need to go, and if Chief Lee doesn’t see this, he needs to go too. Week after week, I’m amazed at the damning evidence that is presented by thebluepaper.com, and incredulous at how that evidence is ignored by our elected officials. On behalf of those of us that read thebluepaper.com, knowing this is where the true stories are found, keep up the good work. Thank you.
Amen to both Rick and the Formerbanker’s statements.
I honestly don’t believe that “citizens will not convict police officers of physical crimes because they want to feel the world is just…” They are afraid of retribution which is alive and well everywhere!
HiI’d like the entire story and that recording put on every major news program. How long are the DOJ and FBI going to ignore this?
The Grand Jury knew the cops thought Eimers was homeless. Ergo, that factored into the Grand Jury’s thinking.
At this stage, I imagine the odds of Donie Lee going anywhere are zero.
In the federal civil rights lawsuit, the Horan law firm might be able to make good use of what is now known of the Grand Jury proceedings. Recorded statements of Officer Lovette evidence against him, and perhaps against other officers on top of Eimers.
I’d hate to be on the receiving end of the State Attorney Office’s karma re this Grand Jury proceeding. Nor on the receiving end of the Grand Jury’s karma.
Might be the Grand Jury indicted the mayor, city commissioners, Donie Lee and KWPD, and the city in another GRAND JURY proceeding, which has been in progress since the day the blue paper first broke the Eimers case.
Officer Lovette should be proud of himself for leaving his recorder on. Or maybe it was his soul that left it on, so it would be known by the public what he happily said when he and other cops were killing Charles Eimers.
cops have a license to kill.minority neighborhoods are occupied territory all over America and minority individual outside their neighborhoods are immediately suspect. folks who didn`t protest when they came for the others get no sympathy from me now that the beast among us isn`t so easily appeased. we turned them loose and its going to be hell reigning them in. we have plenty of good cops in Key West. unfortunately there is a history of them closing ranks instead of speaking up.Why ? because the ones that don`t hew to the party line are ostracized and driven off. it`s worked that way since I came here in 1976, and itnever changes.
Are you John Rotolo, whom I know in Key West, practicing defense lawyer, public defender lawyer?
How did a slow-speed follow, previously reported, become a high-speed chase?
Has anyone seen Eimer’s drivers license? If so, was it bent or creased?
I cannot remotely reconcile FDLE and Grand Jury’s position with these parts of FDLE report:
William Barrow page 21 FDLE report
Sherrie Waltz pages 22-23 FDLE report
Mary Nowak pages 23-24 FDLE report
Officer Lovette parts of pages 24-25 FDLE report
Do you have copies of the officers’ initial incident reports, if any, and the officers incident reports, if any, FDLE initially received? That is, any incident reports filled out by officers, before they knew of the bystanders’ video of the apprehension of Charles Eimers.
Do you have the full statement of Officer Lovette, from which the FDLE summary, p 15 of FDLE report, was made?
What happened to report, or rumor, that a female officer – Wanciak? – said something to the effect of getting her away from another officer, before she did something to him?
I look forward to seeing City Commissioner Tony Yaniz share citizens Barrow, Waltz and Nowak and Officer Lovette’s parts of the FDLE report on his Facebook page.
Looks to me those 4 parts of the FDLE reports, which collectively might be called “the shadow” – generally paint what actually went down on South Beach.
I still think a judge needs to order a release of the full Grand Jury proceedings. Perhaps the federal judge in the civil rights lawsuit will do that.
So the ADMITTED murderer, Gary Lee Lovette walks the streets of Key west with a loaded pistol, sanctioned by all City Officials, the State Attorney, members of the Grand Jury and basically the majority of the citizens-as shown by their silence.
I wonder if Mr. Lovette were to have a moment of conscience and walked into the police station begging to be arrested for the murder of Charles Eimers, if his request would be granted.
Better sleep with one eye open.
Thank you to the editors of thebluepaper for being a voice of truth in a wilderness lies.
I dropped by Naja and Arnaud’s home a bit ago, and told Naja that Officer Lovette and the angels kindly provided evidence needed to keep this case alive. Naja chuckled. I said, Lovette made himself the plaintiff’s star witness in the federal lawsuit against himself, the other officers and the city; all of which hinges, of course, on how the federal judge rules on the defendants motion for dismissaI; I figure the plaintiff lawyers will try to introduce Lovetts’ kind remarks into that motion, and the three citizens’ comments about Lovette, too; his mother and father must be really proud of him. I added, I hope my signing off on that big document Tony Yaniz gave me means I’m done with having to do with this case. Naja gave me the look.
If following “proper procedures” and using the “proper amount of force” gets innocent civilians killed by the police as often as it does, then the only rational conclusion is that the police in this country are DELIBERATELY and ROUTINELY being trained for the exact purpose of murdering innocent people. They are nothing more than a violent street gang with government-granted political immunity. Id sooner trust a member of ISIS before i trusted an American cop.
In a nap dream yesterday, Tony Yaniz came to me, not looking in a happy mood, with a very large complicated white page with lots of writing on it, for me to sign off on. In middle of the page was a small rectangle, which looked like a blackboard eraser. It was called, “the shadow.” I looked closely at it, and indeed there was a shadow cast underneath it onto the white paper. I thought, okay, I will sign off on this big whatever it is.
I awoke, figuring I needed to go online and see what was going on in reader comments underneath the Grand Jury article in Key West the blue paper. After doing that, I opened the links in the article to the Grand Jury’s report and the Florida Department of Legal Enforcement report. I read. I saw stuff that didn’t add up with the main bodies of the two reports. I thought, that’s the shadow. Like the shadow that is cast behind a person on a sidewalk, when the sun shines on that person from the other side. Like the shadow in psychoanalysis, or in psychotherapy, or in Jungian analysis, where the gold lies, beneath the facade – the ego.
It states in the FDLE Report under Fire/Rescue Channel Dispatch subhead 0837 Dispatcher, that “they tased him”.
As constructed from the start, FDLE’s investigation of the KWPD, as it relates to the in-custody death of Mr. Eimers, is in violation of its own investigative and ethical codes of conduct.
The celebratory tone of those applauding the ‘police’ and the force they used in subduing and fatally injuring Mr. Eimers, exposes an element of guilt.
Rule 7.1 of FDLE’s “Ethical Standards of Conduct,” reads as follows:
“Police officers shall, unless required by law or policy, refrain from becoming involved in official matters, or influencing actions of other police officers in official matters, impacting the officer’s immediate family, relatives, or persons with whom the officer has or has had a significant personal relationship.”
It is difficult to comprehend how FDLE could find that the agent they assigned to this case, who is the ex-wife and mother of the child of one of the subjects of this investigation, does not fall under the clear prohibition set forth by FDLE’s Rule 7.1.
Contumaciously, FDLE supervisors and agents defiled their investigative code. They compromised and marginalized an honest examination of the facts, as to what specific conduct on the part of police officers, led to an innocent man losing his life while in their custody.
This taxpayer funded agency (FDLE) refused to adhere to their own “Ethical Standards of Conduct”. Even though it was still going to be ‘cops investigating other cops’, it appears that they had to throw in their ‘ringer agent’, to ensure a desired outcome.
What would cause this law-enforcement agency (FDLE) to engage in such risky and malfeasant behavior?
Why didn’t FDLE adhere to their own ‘ethical standards’, and bring in independent agents?
Did they fear, ever so slightly, that they would lose control of the investigation?
Why would they not allow a thorough and complete review of the details concerning Mr. Eimers’s death, with eyes and expertise from a detached, disentangled, free and unbiased ‘special agent’, from out of town?
Did the State Attorney not see the systemic complications and dilemma that would arise from FDLE’s code violations?
Did the State Attorney’s Office, at any time, ever consider ”vigorously” presenting the case for excessive force?
Perhaps from the start, a collusive arrangement was in play (KWPD-FDLE-State Attorney). Maybe they could not endure the possibility that an accurate account of the facts being reached. Thus, a subversive edge must be inserted from the outset.
MOST CERTAINLY, THE AFOREMENTIONED ENTITIES DID NOTHING TO ASSUAGE THIS TYPE OF CRITICISM.
So we have garbage in, garbage out. However, this is a specific type of garbage, manufactured precisely to cover-up any wrong-doing, that may have occurred, when Mr. Eimers was killed following a traffic stop.
Now, it appears that we have a State Attorney who may be complicit in a cover-up. Why did we have to pay (money or favor), for another cop to appear before the ‘grand jury’ and testify as an ‘expert witness’, so as to explain away the rough treatment (physical abuse of an elderly man), which killed him.
I am told by police officers, that this cop may have absolutely no actual hands on experience, when it comes to the details and facts, that he swore to under oath.
Why was he brought in? Why wasn’t I called upon to profile the conduct of theses cops from a psychological and behavioral perspective?
I feel betrayed and disrespected by those, whose salaries I pay.
The individuals responsible for designing an invalid accounting of the facts, along with those who presented bigoted and incomplete information to the ‘grand jury’, will be exposed.
Lowering the boom will be a creative process. It will re-direct this nation towards its ‘Constitutional’ bearing.
All corrupted tricksters in the form of public officials, must be rooted out, if we are to have the faith, trust and confidence in government; required by a ‘free people’.
The enormity of police and political corruption in this nation is immeasurable. Volumes of malfeasant conduct is recorded at the Department of Justice. I was informed that prosecuting criminal abuses of the public trust by elected and appointed government officials, is a dish best served cold.
On further reading, I see Ms. Smith was able to lie that piece of recorded information away too.
Can someone expand on why it appears to be of utmost importance to deny the fact that Charles was indeed tased? How would the truth about the tasing have affected the investigation?
To think that souless creature went to Disney World the day after murdering Charles. Well, I suppose that’s appropriate.
Whitewash! I do not believe for a minute that these reports came even close to the truth. Too many inconsistencies.
John, others, perhaps a dish only karma can truly serve.
If State Attorney Catherine Vogel runs for reelection in 2016, you should get a read on how many Florida Keys voters are upset about how Vogel and her assistant state attorneys Mark Wilson and Val Winter “shepherded” the Grand Jury to not only let the police officers off, but to commend them and indicate they could have used even more force to subdue the unarmed, face-down-in- the-sand man.
At http://www.goodmorningkeywest.com today, August 31, I summed that all up as best I could figure out how to do, including this blue paper article and special guest appearance City Commissioner Tony Yaniz’ Facebook thread on the “vindication” of KWPD, which Yaniz thread includes Naja Girard’s invitation for Tony to meet her on South Beach and go through a reenactment, with Tony being Charles Eimers, so Tony can learn if he can breathe under just one big man, instead of under 4 big men, one of whom is happily trying to kill him – that would be Officer Lovette. Tony did not man up.
Here’s Naja’s challenge to Tony:
Naja Girard d’Albissin
Tony, meet me at South Beach. Bring just one BIG guy that is strong enough to keep your back down in the sand with his knee. [We’ll just leave off the part about keeping your legs from moving and ripping up your wrists with handcuffs that have been put on so tight that an officer’s finger won’t come free. We’l forget that the video shows – at the very end – that an officer has both knees on Eimers’ back.] Let’s see if you will truly be able to “move your head back and forth in the sand.” Let’s bring Mark. Afterwards, over breakfast, let’s talk about some of the issues there are with the Grand Jury’s report. There are a few. Let’s talk about the Medical Examiner’s report – no let’s talk about his notes – where he says that even if Eimers had been suffocated in the sand he wouldn’t have had any sand in his airways two weeks later. Let’s talk about how our STATE PROSECUTOR Catherine Vogel presented just one expert witness to the Grand Jury – the top law enforcement DEFENSE witness who makes a LIVING contracting with law enforcment agencies and officers. Let’s talk about the New York COPS who were there and who reportedly said that they were witnessing “legalized murder on the beach” that neither FDLE or VOGEL bothered to try to find before presenting the case to the Grand Jury. Let’s also talk about KWPD officers holding shotguns to black children’s heads and about KWPD officers conducting illegal [yes prohibited by Florida Statute] cavity searches in public on young black men. Shall we?
Is Gary Lee Lovette endowed with a penis from the gods? Is that why everyone from from the Police Chief to the States Attorney has put their reputation and career on the line to lie and defend this inhuman being? I mean, what’s the deal?
Well, this is what I think happened now that all the “evidence” is in…
Charles as seen in the video complied with officer commands to surrender and voluntarily laid his body down in the sand.
Charles let the officer cuff his left hand but by the time they tried to put the cuff on his right hand, Charles realized that the weight of multiple officers on his body and the force of Lovette’s knee against his head was keeping him from being able to breath and so his natural instincts for survival kicked in and he tried to maneuver himself to get some air.
Instead of realizing that Charles was suffocating under all of the weight and sand in his airways, THE MORONS/MURDERERS on top of him subdued him further with more force and use of a taser in dry mode.
The taser caused him to go into cardiac arrest, as tasers often do even on young, perfectly healthy individuals.
The Stanford Law Institute recommends that the use of tasers by police officers should be limited to circumstances under which the use of lethal force would also be permitted.
http://www.law.stanford.edu/sites/default/files/child-page/164097/doc/slspublic/tasers.pdf
Charles had surrendered. No lethal force was necessary.
I checked out KWPD facebook page and there are many more likes for them getting away with this murder than there are likes for this article exposing the truth about the lies and cover up…
As ‘grand jury’ evidence (reports, sworn statements and transcripts) become public, it will be gone over with a ‘fine tooth comb’.
The ‘cock and bull story’ proffered by those reveling in the ‘no bill’ finding will be short lived.
The wheels of justice move slowly, but move they do.
From the start their stories stunk to high heaven. I knew right away I was being lied to. For two weeks I looked online for a report. And nothing until the video came out and confirmed my gut feeling. The truth is evident yet nobody can see. I feel like I’m in a dream. You know where you try and run but it’s like your in quick sand or throw a punch and it’s slow motion. I’m trying to scream to tell what happened to my dad and nobody hears me. ” I dropped a fucking bomb on his head” ” We Killed Him” I knew my dad suffered. But to hear them relish and brag about it. I don’t have words to explain the hurt that caused.
A cursory review of the ‘grand jury’ report has been initiated. An analysis of the evidence, when compared with the information contained within this document, exposes a glaringly incomplete and inaccurate report.
The omissions and misstatements of fact contained within this declaration, are clear and convincing.
Having faced off against an agency, which upon relenting from their desire to execute an innocent man, attempted to have him sentenced to 3 life prison terms, without the possibility of parole; I’m startled by the similarities between this report and the fraudulent evidence presented by the state, so they could kill a man they knew to be innocent.
The reasoning, wording, sentence structure, paragraph arrangement and conjecture contained within both documents are analogous.
Shameless and unabashed, the ‘Triumvirate’ presses on.
It’s unimaginable that anyone would stand behind the rubbish presented in these preliminary reports.
Doggedly obtuse, as with the prior engagement, there will be a price to be paid…..
If Charles Eimers didn’t smother to death, I don’t see murder, nor any kind of homicide. That Eimers could not breathe was the entire point of Naja and Arnaud’s reenactment video, and of their invitations to the authorities to do themselves. That FDLE, State Attorney Catherine Vogel and the Grand Jury did not insist on a reenactment tells me they didn’t want a reenactment. They were going for exoneration all all along.
I’m not trying to be argumentative here Sloan, but do you not think that he was tased?
I don’t know Eimers was tased, he may have been and it’s being covered up. However, tasing is seldom lethal. If a cop tases someone resisting arrest, who has a bad heart, and the someone dies of cardiac arrest, that is not homicide in my opinion. It is an unfortunate death, but not one the cop likely could have anticipated on intended.
Shooting and killing someone with a pistol, regardless of the person’s medical condition, is a death a cop can anticipate and intends, if the shot is to a vital area. That is homicide, but it may be justifiable, depending on the facts.
This not being a perfect world, we have police to protect us from ourselves, other people from us, us from other people, and cops from people. Cops have authority to deploy deadly force when they believe it is necessary, subject, of course, to that being reviewed by Internal Affairs, other law enforcement agencies, a state attorney, a grand jury, the press, the public …
On the other hand, if Charles Eimers died because he could not breathe, and he could not breathe because the cops were doing things that caused him not to be able to breathe, that is homicide. If they were not aware he could not breathe, it’s probably manslaughter. The only cop I see in this story, so far, who had murder in his heart, was Lovette.
I wrote some about him, and this case, and some of your and John Donnelly’s input into this and other blue paper KWPD articles at http://www.goodmorningkeywest.com – title of that post is “the black widow effect in Key West”. Hardly isolated to Key West, Madame Black Widow is humanity’s to transmute, or not.
John, I wrote some about this article and your and Sister’s input here and under other blue paper cop articles today, at http://www.goodmorningkeywest.com – title of that post is “the black widow effect in Key West”. Hardly isolated to Key West, Madame Black Widow is humanity’s to transmute, or not.
I deeply regret your and your family’s loss, and that you were dowsed in what I and a number of people down here have known exists for a long time, although we are only few in number, compared to the entire Key West population. The folks responsible have karma I am glad is not mine. How that karma plays out may, in part, be in the federal civil rights lawsuit the Horan law firm filed for your family. However, I encourage you and your family to try to avoid seeking revenge, moneywise or otherwise. Simply let the process unfold and let the people now “working” the situation continue working it. Nothing we do will bring back your father. No amount of money recovered in damages will bring back your father. He is gone, and I imagine is in a far better place than any of us still among the living on this planet. The downside of seeking revenge is the trauma this horrible thing already has inflicted on you will be made worse. Please try to get on with your life, and same please for your family. Do what the Horans ask you to do. Maintain your communication with the Girards, and cooperate with them. But please let others not so close to the trauma as you and your family are, struggle with the crap that goes on down here, and, sadly, lots of other places. And, trust that all who are responsible will experience their karma when and as it visits them, and although they may or may not connect any dots back to the death of your father, they will experience their karma.
563 documented deaths from tasers in US since 2001…who knows how many undocumented…doesn’t sound like “seldom” to me, but maybe it does to you.
I don’t think Charles’ family is seeking revenge. I think they are seeking the TRUTH. And I for one encourage them to keep seeking the TRUTH and to not for one second consider that anyone else besides them are more concerned with getting at the truth than they are.
I believe Charles would want them to keep asking questions of their attorneys to make sure they are indeed interested in the TRUTH. If Charles’ family has any intuitions that the TRUTH is not being served in this case at this point, I would humbly suggest finding new representation.
We as a people need to decide once and for all that either ALL human life/spirit is valuable or it is not. It cannot be valuable for one human and not another.
Unfortunately, it appears that the decision has been made by the majority that human life/spirit is NOT valuable. If this is indeed the case, then there should be no man-made laws prohibiting murder of any kind.
I repeat my suggestions to Charles Eimers’ children made earlier today. It’s clear to me what happened; your father was smothered after he was profiled as being homeless. Proving that in a court of law, if your lawyers even get a chance to do that, is another matter.
You probably don’t wish to hear this, again; but your father’s time was near; he did come to Key West to do God’s work and to help people, as he told the officer who made the traffic stop. He just didn’t know how that was going to play out.
Sister, you need to back off a few miles. This case is not about you. It is not about your view of how the world should operate, or should not operate. The world operates the way it operates, and there is nothing whatsoever that you can do about it.
Regarding your death by taser statistics, sister …
If the Horan law firm gets a chance to try the federal court lawsuit, which is not decided yet, the defendants are trying to get the case thrown out of court, and if the Horan law firm can prove Charles Eimers was tasered, which I am not convinced from what the blue paper has published they can prove, then the Horan law firm can introduce death by taser statistics through expert testimony, and the percentage of death by taser vs. no death by taser statistics, which I imagine will be a pretty low percentage, will come out, too, if not on direct examination of the expert witness(s), then on cross examination.
Through cross examination and their own expert(s), the defense will put on testimony that death by tasering is rare, and is not expected by police who deploy tasers, instead of, say, pulling their sidearm and shooing instead of tasering.
That’s what you want to leave the Eimers jury with, Sister? Or are you using this case to make war on tasers and get them banned altogether? Then cops will only have guns to shoot people with, is that what you want?
Smothering to death is about as high a percentage statistic as you can get for cause of death, if the Horan law firm can convince a jury that’s what happened to Charles Eimers. That’s what the reenactment might be able to do, if the judge will let the Horan law firm introduce it into evidence, if the case doesn’t get thrown out by the judge at the defendants’ request.
He was smothered and tased. Total Unnessary Violence perpetrated on a man in a surrendered position.
The only reason I made that comment under yours to Charles’ family member was because I thought it was pretty rotten of you to suggest that he is out for revenge and monetary gain. I also thought it was pretty rotten back when you insisted that he have a look at the reenactment video. I also thought it was pretty rotten when you suggested that the cover-up was initiated by the editing out of the woman’s voice on the original video. I’m sure there’s a lot more that I think was rotten of you to say but I’ll leave it at that.
Sloan, people like you, who don’t care about the TRUTH, who are too busy being enamored with the four corners of their own mind, ARE what’s wrong with this world.
If you look at the video Sloan, there is NO REASON for ANY officers to have put ANY weight at all on Charles or to use ANY firearm or device other than handcuffs. He had layed down and SURRENDERED!
It’s very simple…The police used excessive violence on a man who had 100% surrendered. If the truth be known that they did in fact tase Charles, I think that the excessive violence would be clear for all to see and undeniable. Now, how an excessive violence determination plays out as far as criminal indictment, I have no idea.
No wonder you were never able to make a living wage as you say Sloan. That black widow of yours must be leaving a lot of cobwebs.
Sloan & Et al.,
Recapitulating a prior comment, Charles Eimers’ cause of death, as determined by the medical examiner and grand jury, was the result of an ‘accident’.
The KWPD was responsible and the cause of this accident. It was determined that the ‘police force’ used in executing an arrest upon Mr. Eimers, was legal and justified.
How can a legal and justified use of force, result in an accident, which causes the in-custody death of an innocent man; NOT BE EXCESSIVE?
Police brutality is the use of excessive force, usually physical, but potentially in the form of verbal attacks and psychological intimidation, by a police officer.
As a submissive and surrendering elderly man laid on the ground, before a large number of police officers with their weapons drawn, there was not any provocation on the part of Mr. Eimers, for the excessive degree of force applied to him.
All police officers are trained and capable of applying an appropriate amount of ‘restraining force’, when effecting an arrest.
Reckless, careless and inhumane application of police force; regularly kills, disables and injures innocent citizens. Since 9/11 there has been a 66% increase in the recorded cases of ‘police brutality’.
The ‘Eimers’ Video’ exhibits a defenseless and compliant man, totally at the mercy of police officers.
During my life I’ve experienced many violent exchanges. Since my early childhood, I’ve always known the difference between excessive and appropriate uses of force. I find it hard to believe that the KWPD, FDLE, State Attorney’s Office and the ‘grand jury’, couldn’t make the same distinction.
During the process of a Miami Firefighter attempting to covertly assault me, as an elderly gentleman I restrained myself from striking this assailant, while only exerting a marginal amount of force to effectively control this young man.
Why couldn’t a cadre of professionally trained and well-armed police officers, safely secure this disabled senior citizen, without killing him?
Much has been made about Mr. Eimers driving away from the police after a ‘traffic stop’.
Suffering from diabetes, and after
a long drive from Michigan to Key
West, was it possible that Mr. Eimers was
fatigued and disoriented when he
was pulled over?
After having cooperated
with police, surrendering his
driver’s license to them, could the
instability of his blood sugar levels
have triggered a diabetic-induced
distraction (hypoglycemic episode),
causing him to believe that he had
satisfied his obligation with the
police; thus prompting him to drive off?
We will never know, because the evidence was destroyed through negligence or the willful actions of those entrusted to care for it.
It appears that the State Attorney’s Office, along with certain Agents of FDLE, have violated and betrayed their oaths. The rule of law as delineated in the ‘Constitution of the United States’, appears to have been overlooked and disregarded.
If in fact this is the case, their costly inattention ‘to the rule of law’, will become the banner of a city, bankrupted by the evil that runs through its veins.
Because Mr. Eimers drove away from
the police after a traffic stop, “Was
the violent force administered to this
61-year-old, as he laid face down on
the ground with his hands extended
above his head, commensurate with
the threat that he posed?” Did this
defenseless, helpless and submissive
man deserve to die?
To sister. I surrender. You and others should advise the Eimers family and their law firm how to proceed. I should have stayed out of this case altogether. I told you some time ago that I never wanted to get involved in it.
To the Eimers family, I apologize to you for what Key West’s police did to your father. It was unconscionable. the Key West government’s response to what its police did to your father was unconscionable. The way I read the recent mayor’s election, 97 percent of Key West’s voters were/are okay with the way Key West’s police treated your father. I hope you get a different result in the federal civil litigation, than you got so far. I hope you get answers and closure.
I included all of the above reader comments, and the blue paper article, and a bit more, in today’s “Key West Labor Day minority autopsy report: Charles Eimers death in “paradise” post at wwww.goodmorningkeywest.com.
Arnaud and Naja Girard aren’t making money publishing the blue paper, and I don’t see me ever making a living wage saying, writing and publishing what the angels dump on me to engage and report.
Sister, re:
“Sloan, people like you, who don’t care about the TRUTH, who are too busy being enamored with the four corners of their own mind, ARE what’s wrong with this world.”
“No wonder you were never able to make a living wage as you say Sloan. That black widow of yours must be leaving a lot of cobwebs.”
My reply, which is long, graphic and involved, promoted by a number of dreams, including two dreams in which you told me to bring it on, is included in today’s “the karma effect in Key West, and related fun” post at http://www.goodmorningkeywest.com.
John Donnelly, a small part of that post mentions you, It offers an entirely different way of viewing and dealing with what upsets us. The material is rough, but then, so is the subject.
” Joyner argued that because the one-armed, one-legged man was waving a ballpoint pen there was reasonable justification for the officer to shoot him square in the head.”
I’d like to wave MY ball point pen and sign an indictment! This should have gotten a true bill from the Grand Jury.
At http://www.goodmorningkeywest.com yesterday, Sister replied to yesterday’s “the karma effect in Key West, and related fun” post at that website, and invited further response from me, which I made a while after noon today in the “Key West’s psychiatrist emeritus advises fun, rest and fresh air, to get out of our convoluted messes, and I told him I would pass his prescription along to the angels, and the angels laughed and said to write today about canned health food for the masses, which they could use to get themselves out of their convoluted messes” post at that website. Among other things, I told today how I see the Horan firm might prevail in the Charles Eimers federal civil rights lawsuit, and how other approaches might get the same result FDLE and the Grand Jury produced.
Sister and I had another go around at http://www.goodmorningkeywest.com yesterday and today, which is included in today’s “Key West, the truth is stranger than fiction” post at that website.
I saw that there were some new comments on here but they’re all from Sloan. Thanks for keeping us informed of what’s on your website without having to visit it.
The FDLE quote “Me, I dropped like a fucking bomb on his head.” is much like another remark about another murder committed at the other end of Duval.
During Fantasy Fest, a few years ago, Marquis Butler, a popular KWHS senior, was murdered for no particular reason by an enthusiastic reveler on Green Street.
Right before he stabbed young Mr. Butler dead, the alleged perpetrator turned to an associate in the crowd down past Sloppy Joe’s and, pointing to Butler in a nearby group. said: “Watch this guy. I’m going to drop him. But Hard!”